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Post by mozeknows (Mets Head of OMG) on May 24, 2017 9:38:35 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I was speaking to a couple of you about this, and I want to get everyone's opinions on it too. In an effort to curb excessive RFA/free agent spending, I would like to make three rule changes.
Increase everyone's salary cap to $140,000,000 and get rid of the salary increases-yearly and championship bonus. -Some teams have more cap space than others, and I don't want to penalize anyone and take away their space. That's why I want to make it a uniform number above everyone's current salary.
With freezing the cap, we should also freeze the minimum bid and RFA starting price. I think we should freeze them at this year's value, meaning $521,000 for minimum bid and $15,700,000 for RFA starting price.
Let us know what your thoughts are below on these proposed changes. I am bringing them up now, instead of at the end of the year so we all can strategize with RFA prices/trades/etc.
No changes will be made until most (10+) of us have responded here
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Post by Red Sox GM (Max) on May 24, 2017 9:48:24 GMT -5
I am 100% in favor of a hard cap and freezing RFA and rookie deals at those numbers. The only thing I would like different is keeping the playoffs bonuses in. They are very little amounts and I think f you make playoffs and or win it all, you deserve the extra million or two imo
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Post by Rangers GM (Patrick) on May 24, 2017 9:57:04 GMT -5
This is my first year so it's difficult for me to take a hard stance one way or the other since I haven't seen this work long term, but a flat cap makes sense to me. I also was intrigued by cap room rewards for certain playoff finishes as a way of competitive balance.
TL;DR - As a newcomer I'm indifferent, and am not opposed to flat cap.
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Post by mozeknows (Mets Head of OMG) on May 24, 2017 10:10:46 GMT -5
Patrick, how do you mean competitive balance? If the teams that win it all get more cap, imo, that's the opposite of competitive balance. It's not going to be a lot of money, but I'm still in favor of a true hard cap at 140 mil. Post Season Awards: Post Season Awards will be awarded with the following cash cap bonuses the following year. • League World Series Champion 1 million • League World Series Runner up .5 million • Playoff Berths .250 million ^^That's what we're looking at here It would be nice to have a reward for postseason success-if being in the postseason isn't enough . My two ideas were a pick and a free drop, but now that I've thought about it a bit both of those would be less competitively balanced than what we already have.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 10:13:32 GMT -5
I am indifferent either way, i thik that the 3% increase is making the gaps between teem salaries way too high, aka rangers have 7-8 more cap than many teams due to the increase in cap room from always making playoffs and the 3% increase, i think having unbalanced caps will in time make thinngs advantageous for one owner. I just worked all night so sleeping but will clarify more tonight, i guess i am in favor of a hard lock on cap room, rfa prices, fa prices, etc
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Post by Rangers GM (Patrick) on May 24, 2017 10:13:41 GMT -5
Oh ok, never mind. I thought that consolation bracket winners were the only ones that got cap space. I would like to see something like that so teams that are being dragged down by one or two contracts have some relief.
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Post by Royals GM (Brandon) on May 24, 2017 10:25:30 GMT -5
I am in favor of a hard cap, and freezing all minimum bids, but can we make the minimum FA bid a round number? $521,000?? WTF
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Post by mozeknows (Mets Head of OMG) on May 24, 2017 11:08:33 GMT -5
I am in favor of a hard cap, and freezing all minimum bids, but can we make the minimum FA bid a round number? $521,000?? WTF I kinda like it at $521,000! But that's something I'll easily concede lol
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Post by mozeknows (Mets Head of OMG) on May 24, 2017 11:14:00 GMT -5
Oh ok, never mind. I thought that consolation bracket winners were the only ones that got cap space. I would like to see something like that so teams that are being dragged down by one or two contracts have some relief. You would like to see something like what? Idk what "that" is. A free drop or just what we have? I like the way what we have now with +$1 mil for 1st, $500K for 2nd, $250K for the other four teams. A free drop could be way more than just 1 million, so I'm not loving that idea of mine as much as I was liking it earlier
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 13:12:27 GMT -5
I am in favor of a hard cap, and freezing all minimum bids, but I would like to see if a player goes to DL and you bid on a player to replace him until he comes off the DL and you drop him the hit would be 25% {has to be the player you bid on to replace) if you drop someone else when your player comes off the DL the hit would be the same as it is now. let me know what you think
Alan
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Post by mozeknows (Mets Head of OMG) on May 24, 2017 13:39:41 GMT -5
I am not in favor of changing the cap hit for injured players' replacements. All free agent adds should carry the same weight. I can bid $4,000,000 on a replacement who is not worth that at all knowing I can drop them for only a $1,000,000 hit. But if another owner who isn't replacing an injury wants to bid on that player, they're still going to have a 50% cap hit if they drop him. Also, if Owner A is replacing an injury and they feel comfortable going to $4,000,000, and Owner B wants the same player, but will take a bigger penalty for the drop, they won't be able to bid as much.
This proposed change creates different rules for owners bidding on the same player, which I am against.
-Moze
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 13:47:32 GMT -5
It should not matter if you have the cap space the you can bid what you want to replace the player.....if player A wants the player and player B wants the same player the bid on it if you have the cap.....but the player has to be signed for 1 yr if you replace a player with another one and sign him for more the 1 yr then the old rules apply ......this is what bidding is all about. you can mark the replacement player in red on the cap sheet so you and everyone knows.....if you have $4000.00 to bid then go for it as you never know how long a player is going to be on the DL. if you keep the replacement player to the end of the season the old rules apply you would have to drop the replacement before the end of the year.
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Post by Yankees GM (Corey) on May 24, 2017 14:40:40 GMT -5
What about making the extra cap reward only last for the next season, instead of forever? That would reward those making the playoffs, without letting it get out of hand over time.
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Post by Royals GM (Brandon) on May 24, 2017 15:59:03 GMT -5
that's not a bad idea, but I like the idea of everyone having the same amount of money.. winning is its own reward.
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Post by thewelt15 on May 24, 2017 17:25:05 GMT -5
Ecen though this will hurt me, i agree with these changes.
Alan, I get what your trying to do but it opens too many ways for managers to take advantage and creates a lot more work for league commish.
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Post by Braves GM (Cameron) on May 25, 2017 10:39:31 GMT -5
I'm good with everyone having an equal salary
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Post by seeyalaterdylan (Orioles GM) on Jun 9, 2017 13:35:40 GMT -5
Just saw this, my bad. I'm OK with everything listed in the first post.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 13:45:53 GMT -5
One more thought in reply to this, I personally make a lot of multi year bids, if it locks I won't be doing this as I don't mind drop penalties 5 years from now knowing I'll have 20 mill in cap space so it won't hurt me, I vote that if the changes go through we remove the multi year penalties and just make it current year plus 50 percent the following year if after the trade deadline, I'm still okay with multi year penalties if cap still increases though, let me know what you all think, need to know asap because I personally would not make 5.4 mill 3 year bids on pujols like I did if the increase stops
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Post by mozeknows (Mets Head of OMG) on Jun 9, 2017 13:57:51 GMT -5
I think that doing Josh's idea would help prevent years 3-5 salary from being depleted too quickly. I like the idea of keeping the 50% next year cap hit if after trading deadline though. To my understanding, this would mean if a player was dropped before the deadline, there would still be a 25% cap hit for next year? I think the Year 2 25% hit helps buffer bidding from getting absolutely crazy, especially in the offseason when spending goes up.
So I guess I am in favor of doing away with cap hits for years 3-5 of a deal, but would like to keep our current drop system for the current and following year: 50% in current year & 25% the next year if before trade deadline, 50% if after.
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Post by Royals GM (Brandon) on Jun 9, 2017 14:19:06 GMT -5
I think we keep the cap hit. I am not sure how this is effected by the cap not increasing.
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