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Post by Royals GM (Brandon) on Sept 21, 2017 13:52:36 GMT -5
Question for the guys that have been here a few years.
We have always had a 50% penalty for players dropped in the current year. There is some question about how that drop rate is effected after the trade deadline for 1 year contracts.
Have owners been penalized the 50% for the following year (on 1 year contracts) after the trade deadline?
Example: I have Matt Kemp signed to a 1/$15,700,000 contract. If I drop him now do I receive a $7,850,000 penalty for the 2018 season?
Please let us know what you remember.
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Post by mozeknows (Mets Head of OMG) on Sept 21, 2017 13:58:46 GMT -5
Although I have been processing one-year drops as 50% this year and 50% next year after the deadline, I did not believe that to be the case going into this year's deadline. I believed there would be a 50% cap hit on the second year but if there is no second year, 50% of zero is 0.
It would not make sense to charge a salary hit on a player who you were not paying that year
However, I remember in 2015 not knowing about the rule myself and dropping Cliff Lee (1/$9M) post deadline as he got hurt and was charged an additional $4,500,000 in 2016.
EDITED (7:57 EST, THursday 21)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 14:09:29 GMT -5
The 2 years timm was inactive, I processed as 50 percent for year 2 if under contract and 25 percent any other year under contract, I never remember penalizing year 2 50 percent if not under contract that year, if we are penalizing for one year drops next year, then my conditional drop on Britton will change as I'm not taking a pointless 2.2 mill drop for nothing....I'd just have to have him inactive on my bench for no reason
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Post by thewelt15 on Sept 21, 2017 16:23:14 GMT -5
There has never been a cap hit for years not covered under the contract. Example above: If you drop Matt Kemp, there is NO cap hit in 2018
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Post by Reds GM (Rich) on Sept 21, 2017 18:02:18 GMT -5
There is a 50% hit for 20018 on a 1 year contract. That is the penalty for dropping a player after the deadline otherwise it would be no different to drop a player before the deadline than after.
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Post by Yankees GM (Corey) on Sept 21, 2017 18:50:00 GMT -5
I remember at 50% hit on 1 year contracts for the next season too. I hated the rule, but it was there.
This rule should be 100% clear going into next season. I made salary cap moves at the deadline thinking that I would get charged for next season, a noncontracted year, if I dropped.
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Post by Red Sox GM (Max) on Sept 21, 2017 20:26:10 GMT -5
The rule was one year contracts took a hit for this year at 50% and next year at 50% if dropped after the deadline. I remember talking about this with someone probably 2 months ago. I had Ben Zobrist at 1/8 mil and I dropped him the day of the deadline so I wouldn't get a cap hit. I had a full roster and knew at some point I'd have to drop someone so I dropped him to make cash and not lose cash for next year
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2017 23:31:08 GMT -5
I disagree with the posts about 50 percent on next year as I processed them but if that's the consensus, I'll post my drop that's not Britton and keep him benched...but I guarantee there was no penalty if one year, hence why I'd drop tulo at 2 years and keep one year guys that may bounce back after deadline, knowing it only effects this year, I'll go with it if it's changed, disgruntled....this league was set up to be like mlb though do comon sense should tell people there's no penalty for a year if not under contract, send a proboards email soon so I can decide on a drop with your decision and not have a dead rp slot in playoffs please
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Post by Red Sox GM (Max) on Sept 21, 2017 23:33:35 GMT -5
That's how I felt about the rule but I remember talking to Timm about this awhile back
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 0:16:03 GMT -5
Well it's never how I processed it, whatever the league wants is fine, I just need to know so I'm not down 2 players this week
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Post by seeyalaterdylan (Orioles GM) on Sept 22, 2017 15:49:26 GMT -5
My understanding since I joined early last year was that the 50% hit applied to the next year regardless of how long the contract was. I'm fine with reforming it either way if there's group consensus.
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